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Jun 26 08 5:31 AM
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"homegrown manufacturing jobs are making a comeback" cS
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Jun 26 08 7:34 AM
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Jun 26 08 9:07 AM
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Jun 27 08 7:17 AM
"since the first mass produced engines, there has been little progress in the design." John
"Tractors, harvesters, heavy machinery and public transport should, in my opinion be prioritised for oil, whilst cars, recreational vehicles and non-essential business vehicles should be modified as soon as possible to use other forms of fuel" John
Jun 27 08 11:35 AM
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Jun 27 08 6:45 PM
"I know that even in the 70's it was possible to get high effeciency cars as far as gas milage. I had a pinto" PM
"the oil companies bought up all - or most - of the patents" John
Jun 28 08 2:38 AM
I've heard that one a lot. Count me a skeptic. It seems to me the same type of urban legend (meaning fiction) as the stories about all those surplus WWII Jeeps that are packed in "cosmolene" and available for a song.
It seems to me the same type of urban legend (meaning fiction) as the stories about all those surplus WWII Jeeps that are packed in "cosmolene" and available for a song.
You could be right...
Water Fuel Experimenter and Team Threatened Ken Rasmussen's research team has been working on a process that turns out to have similarities to the super-efficient electrolysis process being developed by Professor Kanarev. Rasmussen's work ceased after a member of the team was threatened at gunpoint. by Sterling D. Allan Pure Energy Systems News Copyright © 2006 VENTURA COUNTY, CALIFORNIA, USA -- On May 16, a technician who was one of a team of garage experimenters investigating a hydrogen-on-demand technology was run off the road near a rural intersection and accosted by four white, middle-aged males in black suits, carrying Glocks and Mac tens. The assailants were driving a late model, black Lincoln Town Car. This comes just one month after Bill Williams was similarly threatened because of his alleged experimentation with running a vehicle on a Joe cell. The victim in this latest incident is an associate of New Energy Congress member, Ken Rasmussen, who had been working together with him on the project. Rasmussen also runs an alternative energy news service at http://www.commutefaster.com/Energy.html A week before the incident, Rasmussen learned of the work being done by Professor Kanarev in Russia. Both use a pulsed signal, and both were seeing similar performance rates. Kanarev holds multiple patents, and is widely published. A day before the incident, a person who was interested in funding the project of Rasmussen et al., and who had been trying to reach him since November, had finally made contact. Rasmussen reported the incident for the first time publicly in his news today. He said, "As editor of this page, my life has now been threatened by 2 loaded guns pointed in the face of a good friend." "Using information which could only have been obtained by monitoring digital cell phones and e-mail, the assailants portrayed to the victim that they had total control over his personal life, and was told to remain silent and to not talk to government authorities." He was told that if he did not comply, a family member would be killed. The assailants produced extensive details about this target family member. The threat also included himself, his family and all associates if he did not stop work on the process immediately. The threats made actually applied broadly to anyone working on overunity. "I'm breaking the story to warn others who might be involved in similar technologies," said Rasmussen. Obeying the threats made to him, the person threatened has stopped all work on the project. "When happy people start acting silent and paranoid, friends get suspicious," said Rasmussen, who waited to publish this account until the necessary measures had been taken to protect the lives of those directly threatened in the incident. At the time of the assault, Rasmussen had been in discussion with several pre-screened, suitable investors, who were waiting on Rasmussen's team to fix a final detail before attending a live demonstration. Rasmussen addressed them publicly in today's report, saying: "For any of my previous business contacts reading this, please excuse the delay. Our lives have been directly threatened if we were to complete the item we were intending to demonstrate for you. All progress is stopped" . . . for now. "Enormous amounts of personal information thrown in our face behind the guns proved to me NONE of the prospective investors had anything to do with the violence we experienced. These thugs knew things I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW. Their boss has digital cell phone tapping technology at the very least. Other details were probably obtained by wire tapping neighbors and friend's phones too." In closing, Rasmussen said, "We have this kind warning to fellow experimenters who try to challenge the conventional physics being taught to students around the world. Challenge the system, the system that says oil is god, and there are paid mafia goons all over the world who will stop you for a few measly dollars. We know, because we met their guns face to face. Please continue your noble research, but PLEASE PLEASE watch your backside." Rasmussen's words to the assailants were that if anyone were harmed, the plans for this technology would be plastered all over the Internet. He believes that cowering to bullies is not good policy. Source: http://pesn.com/2006/06/02/9500276_Water_fuel_experimenter_threatened/
VENTURA COUNTY, CALIFORNIA, USA -- On May 16, a technician who was one of a team of garage experimenters investigating a hydrogen-on-demand technology was run off the road near a rural intersection and accosted by four white, middle-aged males in black suits, carrying Glocks and Mac tens. The assailants were driving a late model, black Lincoln Town Car. This comes just one month after Bill Williams was similarly threatened because of his alleged experimentation with running a vehicle on a Joe cell. The victim in this latest incident is an associate of New Energy Congress member, Ken Rasmussen, who had been working together with him on the project. Rasmussen also runs an alternative energy news service at http://www.commutefaster.com/Energy.html A week before the incident, Rasmussen learned of the work being done by Professor Kanarev in Russia. Both use a pulsed signal, and both were seeing similar performance rates. Kanarev holds multiple patents, and is widely published. A day before the incident, a person who was interested in funding the project of Rasmussen et al., and who had been trying to reach him since November, had finally made contact. Rasmussen reported the incident for the first time publicly in his news today. He said, "As editor of this page, my life has now been threatened by 2 loaded guns pointed in the face of a good friend." "Using information which could only have been obtained by monitoring digital cell phones and e-mail, the assailants portrayed to the victim that they had total control over his personal life, and was told to remain silent and to not talk to government authorities." He was told that if he did not comply, a family member would be killed. The assailants produced extensive details about this target family member. The threat also included himself, his family and all associates if he did not stop work on the process immediately. The threats made actually applied broadly to anyone working on overunity. "I'm breaking the story to warn others who might be involved in similar technologies," said Rasmussen. Obeying the threats made to him, the person threatened has stopped all work on the project. "When happy people start acting silent and paranoid, friends get suspicious," said Rasmussen, who waited to publish this account until the necessary measures had been taken to protect the lives of those directly threatened in the incident. At the time of the assault, Rasmussen had been in discussion with several pre-screened, suitable investors, who were waiting on Rasmussen's team to fix a final detail before attending a live demonstration. Rasmussen addressed them publicly in today's report, saying: "For any of my previous business contacts reading this, please excuse the delay. Our lives have been directly threatened if we were to complete the item we were intending to demonstrate for you. All progress is stopped" . . . for now. "Enormous amounts of personal information thrown in our face behind the guns proved to me NONE of the prospective investors had anything to do with the violence we experienced. These thugs knew things I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW. Their boss has digital cell phone tapping technology at the very least. Other details were probably obtained by wire tapping neighbors and friend's phones too." In closing, Rasmussen said, "We have this kind warning to fellow experimenters who try to challenge the conventional physics being taught to students around the world. Challenge the system, the system that says oil is god, and there are paid mafia goons all over the world who will stop you for a few measly dollars. We know, because we met their guns face to face. Please continue your noble research, but PLEASE PLEASE watch your backside." Rasmussen's words to the assailants were that if anyone were harmed, the plans for this technology would be plastered all over the Internet. He believes that cowering to bullies is not good policy. Source: http://pesn.com/2006/06/02/9500276_Water_fuel_experimenter_threatened/
John
Jun 28 08 6:12 AM
"Glocks and Mac tens" John
Jun 28 08 6:38 AM
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Jun 28 08 7:57 AM
"I'm not suggesting that companies shouldn't make a profit, but when it comes to the future of the planet and our human way of life, perhaps they should, at least, allow and encourage research into more eco-friendly fuel sources. John"
Jun 28 08 11:33 AM
But seriously, how could the bad guys really know how well the research is going, or if it's ongoing at all?
"Using information which could only have been obtained by monitoring digital cell phones and e-mail, the assailants portrayed to the victim that they had total control over his personal life, and was told to remain silent and to not talk to government authorities." ... At the time of the assault, Rasmussen had been in discussion with several pre-screened, suitable investors, who were waiting on Rasmussen's team to fix a final detail before attending a live demonstration. ... "Enormous amounts of personal information thrown in our face behind the guns proved to me NONE of the prospective investors had anything to do with the violence we experienced. These thugs knew things I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW. Their boss has digital cell phone tapping technology at the very least. Other details were probably obtained by wire tapping neighbors and friend's phones too."
Why do the Ominous Bad Guys always wear black suits and drive huge black cars? I'd think they would want to stay off the radar by wearing suburban casual and driving SUVs.
There are a number of theories about that, Mac
It is quite likely that a lot of MiB reports are fantasies but why would respected research engineers make up such stories for the sake of five minutes of fame and ruin their credibility? It just doesn't add up because it's not supposed to. Make the person look incompotent and you can dismiss them in the public eye. In the above account, people may have been more likely to believe it had the ubiquitous MiBs not been mentioned, so if they were interested in starting a conspiracy theory and it never happened, they would have been well-advised to leave that bit out. John
Jun 28 08 12:55 PM
"why should they have to keep it quiet?" John
Jun 28 08 5:14 PM
The reason they were so scathing toward Tesla was not because they thought he was mad, it was because he envisaged free electricity for all.
Jun 29 08 3:06 AM
For instance, when Edison found out about the power station that westinghouse was building (Niagra Falls), he was ferious and had children pick up cats and dogs off the street and then electrocuted them with his new invention, the electric chair. He took some of the ideas and used them to make a chair capable of killing a man, and then demostrated on the stray animals the kids found, and he held a press conference to show it off. It was to be a "more human way of killing people" but he called 'being westinghoused'.
Edison used the stray animals, and even an elephant (where did he get the stray elephant from, I wonder) to discredit Tesla's Alternating Current system because he (Edison) had invested in Direct Current systems. He wanted to show how dangerous AC was. The fact that Edison later adopted the AC system is testament that he was lying or, at least, exaggerating the dangers in order to discredit his opponent. He was more of a businessman than an inventor and was an unscrupulous one at that. Some of Edison's patents have been successfully challenged in recent years - including his "light bulb" invention. Edison took other people's ideas, worked upon them and then claimed them as his own "inventions".
Westinghouse bought Tesla's AC patent for $1,000,000 and Tesla moved on to another project - wireless power transmission. His chief investor, JP Morgan, withdrew from the project when he realised that what Tesla was proposing would provide free electricity for everyone. The business world doesn't like to give anything for free. As soon as Tesla refused to co-operate with the government, he was branded as a "mad scientist", yet the day after his death all of his research was confascated and has never been returned or accounted for. His inventions, however, have slowly been introduced as "new ideas" by both military and commercial interests.
Jun 29 08 9:40 AM
The fact that Edison later adopted the AC system is testament that he was lying or, at least, exaggerating the dangers in order to discredit his opponent.
Edison took other people's ideas, worked upon them and then claimed them as his own "inventions".
As soon as Tesla refused to co-operate with the government, he was branded as a "mad scientist", yet the day after his death all of his research was confascated and has never been returned or accounted for. His inventions, however, have slowly been introduced as "new ideas" by both military and commercial interests.
Jun 29 08 10:54 AM
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