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Dec 28 02 6:52 AM
Sceptical Observer
Quote:Usually, Atheists/skeptics...whatever you want to call them, point to God as being cruel, not giving a second thought to the fact that every trouble man has ever been dealt...he has brought on himself in one way or another.
Quote:When simple self control, not to mention the humility to listen to wisdom and realize that knowledge is not based on how much man can do on his own, rather, what man can do that is best.
Quote:Who in their right mind feels that everything should be handed to them on a silver platter?
Quote:Is it not true...that violators of the peace...have their privileges of freedom removed, maybe on a permanent basis...depending? You see, we can afford ourselves that right, but when it comes to God? Nope...can't happen.
Quote:Further, we will find our skeptics laughing at believers in what can't be seen, yet, what skeptic does not believe there is not an Antartica or some other place they have never seen? What skeptic does not believe their was an Alexander the Great? How do they know for sure? Have they seen him?
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Dec 28 02 8:15 AM
Quote:One might say, Atheism is merely a non-belief in any deity, yet its proponents go out of their way, to wave its banner. If the banner is waved before me...I will speak my mind, every time that I feel like it, and perhaps a time or two...when I don't.
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Dec 28 02 9:28 AM
Fairly Regular For His Age
Quote: "You will see it here...and almost anywhere else you find Atheists. They quickly grasp opportunities to pound their ungodly drums...singing "Hail to the Chief!" while firing volleys of jargon designed to spank the religious mind." El Stevereno
Quote: a- or an- prefix Without; not: amoral. *
Quote: "Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear." Thomas Jefferson
Dec 28 02 9:43 AM
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Dec 28 02 10:09 AM
Proprietor
Quote:It doesn't matter if you struggle with existance and its beginning and refusing to accept that something so complex as life...can come from nothing.
Quote:It does not matter that you see mankind in his full ability to overshadow the entire animal kingdom, dominate the earth with mental appititudes that make even the most complex ape appear mentally dwarfed.
Quote: It does not matter that only man uses reward and punishment...for good and bad.
Quote:It does not matter, that mankind marks time...from the era that Jesus Christ walked this earth. Nope. Forget it.
Quote:It is merely coinsidence...that man is here at all, let alone being well defined in his unique abilities, such as language that closely emulate the Creator as described in the Bible...having been created in his image.
Quote:Usually, Atheists/skeptics...whatever you want to call them, point to God as being cruel, not giving a second thought to the fact that every trouble man has ever been dealt...he has brought on himself in one way or another. Nope. Instead, look for excuses, as to why he cannot exist, simply because he does not measure up to what an unqualified, biased, disagreeable few feel he should.
Quote: You see, we can afford ourselves that right, but when it comes to God? Nope...can't happen.
Quote:Further, we will find our skeptics laughing at believers in what can't be seen,yet, what skeptic does not believe there is not an Antartica or some other place they have never seen?
Quote:What skeptic does not believe their was an Alexander the Great? How do they know for sure? Have they seen him?
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Dec 28 02 1:15 PM
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Dec 28 02 1:53 PM
Bartender
Quote:You will see it here...and almost anywhere else you find Atheists. They quickly grasp opportunities to pound their ungodly drums...singing "Hail to the Chief!" while firing volleys designed to spank the religious mind.
Quote:It does not matter that only man can show genuine love on this earth...as well as hate, and to a degree that surpasses any other earthly creature. It does not matter that only man uses reward and punishment...for good and bad.
Quote:It does not matter, that mankind marks time...from the era that Jesus Christ walked this earth
Quote:Nope. Instead, look for excuses, as to why he cannot exist, simply because he does not measure up to what an unqualified, biased, disagreeable few feel he should
Quote:Usually, Atheists/skeptics...whatever you want to call them, point to God as being cruel, not giving a second thought to the fact that every trouble man has ever been dealt...he has brought on himself in one way or another
Quote:Take for instance the way we live inside our own value systems.
Quote:Is it not true, that evil when it goes so far as to break the law, ideally...is always dealt with in a manner that protects the law-abiding citizen, even in areas where the "law abiding citizen" is a minority.
Quote:Who in their right mind feels that everything should be handed to them on a silver platter? Is it not true...that violators of the peace...have their privileges of freedom removed, maybe on a permanent basis...depending?
Quote:You see, we can afford ourselves that right, but when it comes to God? Nope...can't happen
Quote:Further, we will find our skeptics laughing at believers in what can't be seen, yet, what skeptic does not believe there is not an Antarctica or some other place they have never seen? What skeptic does not believe their was an Alexander the Great? How do they know for sure? Have they seen him?
Dec 28 02 4:19 PM
Dec 28 02 5:01 PM
Quote:I would like to point out that you needed to look at the extreme behaviors of several groups of animals to even get close to matching the far more common behavior of man.
Quote:In Genesis woman is punished by the pain of her labor (bearing offspring), and it is only women and not animals that receive this punishment.... To me, this is biblical evidence. Conclusive? No...but still...some evidence...in an an area where it is said there is none.
Dec 28 02 5:15 PM
Quote:No need to apologize. I appreciated your post, even though I don't agree with it completely, but then, I am not sure if I always agree with myself completely...so there is something to laugh at if you'd like?
Quote:You list of animal behaviors was duly noted, some I was aware of...others I am not, but still, I would like to point out that you needed to look at the extreme behaviors of several groups of animals to even get close to matching the far more common behavior of man.
Quote:Oh, there are exceptions, as your local Vet will attest to, but the truth is...a 600 pound mare can pop out a 70 lbs. foal in half the time and with much less pain..
Quote:To me, this is biblical evidence. Conclusive? No...but still...some evidence...in an an area where it is said there is none. And...what is more...there is more, for those who wish to look.
Quote:Comparisons. I guess they are something we must make to make critical decisions as to what we ourselves will believe and having looked beyond church issues, and at what should be instead, I am one who feels belief in God has far more to offer and stimulate my mind, than viewing myself on a unique island (planet)...lost in a sea (space) with no real purpose, other than survive. But then, that is me.
Dec 28 02 5:23 PM
Quote:Yes, I believe if one could whittle an entire way of life down to "a mere belief" then THAT person could say that. Then...we see a good ole blanket statement...as to "His adherents"...labeling *all* adherents, simply by not defining who the speaker is speaking of as adherents.
Dec 28 02 6:26 PM
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Dec 29 02 10:59 AM
Quote:Yo mentioned body structure, well, I agree, humans are unique, but when you look at apes, who evolutionists say are our closest relatives alive...they too...pop out babies...just as eay as most other animals. This, barring complications...of course. Ok..nuff o' dat!
Dec 29 02 11:54 AM
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