tracyannef wrote:
Once again I don't see any apologist rhetoric in support of ISIS/ISIL, what I see is debunking of US government and main stream media claims that ISIS/ISIL is a direct and existential to the people of the US, which clearly it is not. It is a potential threat, that can become manifest, if the US government doesn't deal with it in an appropriate manner, and so far I have seen little of that, what I have seen is a hell of a lot of fear mongering, that directly feeds into Islamaphobia, with the wrong people being targeted, thus potentially, and actually (in that part of the world) causing support for such groups.

The fact is the cartels are an existential threat, whether you personally feel threatened or not. In the same way that seismic activity in New Zealand is, and was for me, an existential threat, no matter how little I personally felt threatened by it.

I see what you're saying here, however the articles being posted repeatedly take the tone that ISIS/ISIL are really not all that bad, and in fact there are many worse groups out there, let us show you a list.
I'm also in agreement that the Islamic State is not currently a direct threat to the citizenry of the U.S., but the key word there is 'currently'.
Allowed to continue to expand this group has the potential to be a major player on the board, and one that will indeed become a direct threat to the U.S.
The examples these articles pull out as other nasty bad guys do not have that same urge to destroy others who do not follow the same ideology. The cartels are after money, and, as Padre points out, power.
They are not in it to spread their faith through force of arms, or kill, say, me, solely because I refuse to believe in their super being.
I'm not at risk of my life from the cartels in nearly the same fashion, much indeed in the way you didn't feel threatened by an earthquake, it happens, it can be dangerous, but it's not actively trying to kill you because of who you are, what you believe or where you live.




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