I didn't think you were disagreeing, not at first. Some degree of self-seeking is desirable, else we would not seek to survive. It's the degree of self-seeking that presents the problem.

We live in an age when cars with lots of bells and whistles are considered basic transportation, are we not?

At what point do we cease looking to government to "solve" our problems?

A lot of growing up takes place between "It fell" and "I dropped it."
- Anonymous