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"You think we've evolved this way for a purpose, and that the universe is like that for a purpose. What purpose? How can you have a purpose without an intelligent agent to create the purpose? If you don't see this as a god issue then you're being obtuse"

you are right it may ultimately be GOD issue. I am still trying to graple with what the GOD issue is. I know people say intelligent cause, what exactly do they mrean. I see events from future influncing the past. Is that GOD or Physics. I dont know.

My intepretion of purpose may be ill defined. May be it should be called cause. the purpose does not imply intelligence vreated it, it mightn simply be the only thing that can exist. But I dont think we have knowledge to grapple that now.