"a leap of faith is a genetic flaw"

I never said that. Your interpretation only.

"what is so difficult about making a comparison between two hypothetical situations that both would seem to indicate the reality of a certain situation?"

Nothing. As long as you think they are such indicators and not completely wild guesses. However if one of them is a wild guess, then it isn't just difficult, it's pointless. The opinion that it has anything to do with reality is yours only, by the way, but then this is the trouble you get into when you use the words 'hypothetical' and 'reality' in the same sentence. The operative words here are 'seem to indicate', not 'it does indicate it because I said so'. The words 'seem to indicate' are often used in science, generally they mean 'until we find out', not 'Druid believes it so it must be true'.

It isn't difficult to compare two hypothetical situations but that doesn't make it always reasonable either.

"you demand proof of something, while accepting “nothing (?)” as part of your reality"

In what way? As an absence of matter or energy? Sure. As the 'nothing' that was there before the big bang? Maybe, but of course it isn't really 'nothing' is it? You were saying something else about my ability to understand 'nothing'? I'll answer that when you start making sense. This is not helpful, extremely vague and could mean anything;

"while looking at “something” that represents your definition of “Nothing”, you seem blinded, by your inabilities to comprehend that nothing really is something after all."

I'm not wasting any more time deciphering esoteric vagarities that seem to say something and actually say nothing :-) I'm ignoring further stuff like this in favour of any point you would like to make.


So I don't buy the first explanation that comes along just because it convinces you. And? Try being more convincing. You have done nothing to sway me towards the notion that we ever, at any time, cloned ourselves. You'd like to believe I am the backward one for not jumping at the concept and crying 'yes, Druid, we are not worthy' go ahead. I won't lose any sleep over it. I'm not a stone wall, you're just unconvincing. Come up with more than loose comparisons with no valid reasons presented to connect them other than a vague hunch.

"your animal anatomy working from its prehistoric animal fears"

Actually I would say it is your animal fear, not mine. You're the one with the weird logical leap for no other reason than that other animals have self reproduced, I am the one reserving judgement till I get more than you think so. So far you have drawn loose comparisons with other creatures and then called me primitive for not understanding you. I understand you perfectly, I just think you are wrong, or, put another way, have nothing of any real substance to back up such a claim. I find it highly unlikely we ever cloned ourselves way back when.

Even if I got the time to read up on everything you suggest that does not mean I would necessarily come to the same conclusion as you. Nor would I come to the automatic conclusion that we were once pink because some other animals were/are.

"Logic is an ability to make leaps of faith, assuming nothing beforehand when beginning the task of examining knowledge for the first time. An open mind is required so that neither side is filtered out."

*sigh* here we go again, someone doesn't agree so they are not open minded and somehow less aware of possibilities than your higher mind. Blow it out your ass, mate, and I mean that in the nicest way. There are leaps and there are logical next steps which may or may not be true, pending testing, and there are complete flights of fancy. Nothing nowadays truly starts with nothing in any case, we can at least compare it to something we have discovered already, let's face it here, whatever we may be able to think of, someone has done it before. You used reproductive systems in other species to draw some conclusion that we somehow did the same once. It's a guess at best, and I don't believe it. I have never heard of anyone in the respected and accredited scientific community who agrees with you. All of these wonders of nature you describe are indeed fascinating, but that we did it too? Your opinion only. Perhaps you could point me to some thorough research from people who share your opinion that two unrelated species are linked in this way? I'll happily read it.

"I thought you were not in to leaps of faith, Phill! You certainly are confusing me about that. Just when we find a middle ground you spout off with “It's an interesting notion, as I said, but no more valid to me than the concept that all of our world leaders are really shape changing alien lizards.”
Certainly you don’t expect me to swallow that crap!"

There is a leap of faith in there? Where, exactly?

Anyway, no shit, Sherlock :-) Unless you were thinking of joining David Icke's fan club of course. Oh dear, so much for trying to lighten the mood. And up to now it's been me who's done all the misunderstanding, apparently.
"All governments suffer a recurring problem - power attracts pathological personalities. It is not power that corrupts, but that power is a magnet to the corruptible" - Dune, Missionaria Protectiva.